Category: the Rant Board
Hi all. I was going to post this in news and views but thought it would go better here. I don't know if you heard on the news or not, but someone out of Britain I think it was made a video game about the assasination of president Kenedy. Apparently you are the killer and you have to shoot the president. I will tell you in my oppinion that this indevidual is very very sick and needs some major therapy. This game doesn't teach anyone anything. I hope that parents/people in general have enough sence not to buy this game. I would imagine that it's very disturbing to those of you who were around during the assasination.
Troy
Yup Troy I heard about that also. The author of the game said it was suppose to be educational and historical (wording might be wrong somewhat.). But I think it's sick to have a vieo game where you try to shoot the president. But I've never heard anything more on it.
Hmmm, why is it any sicker to shoot the president of the U.S. than any other person? At least they're not encouraging you to shoot a living president and if it were Saddam Hussein people would be all too happy to condone the game. I'm not saying this is cool either, I just don't see the big deal really. I can understand why they'd choose a president because of the security measures etc, but just because Kenedy has some type of a mythical status as a hero president does not make him any more special or make the game any sicker in my mind (of course I'm not from this country but I think I'd feel the same way about the president of my country). You kind of have to take all those video games not at face value, you even get points for raping women in, I think Grand Theft Auto - Wise City .. and that is more discusting than killing someone, even a president (at lesat to me, may be that makes no sense, but still that's how I feel about it).
Yet, hey, I think this whole thing is kind of upsetting, I think using monsters etc makes the games a little less real and most justifiable but I still haven't seen any convincing evidence that those games, themselves, cause any major violence etc, not directly at least. This being said I've never played a game like that myself although I loved playing the drug lord game, where you made money of drugs and tried to shoot the police, it was made very unreal though. :)
Cheers
-B
Oh come now, don't be ridiculous. The americans a few years ago pioneered a game called 'Schoolyard slaughter', which was modelled on the shootings that had recently taken place at a primary school in Scotland, in which sixteen children had been shot by a crazed maniac of a gunman. Now, that's sick! The fact is that this game about the president is no more sick, and indeed is a good deal less sick, than some of the rubbish you lot have come out with at our expense. Shall I go on? The Americans have apparently rewritten the story of churchill to make out that the americans were the heros in the second world war, including the battle of Britain. That's sick in my view, for the Americans forget that britain in 1940 was fighting on her own against the Nazi aggressors, with no help from the United states. One could also mention the ridiculous 'saving private Ryan', which made it look like there were no british involved in the D-day landings. It's those things that I find truly sick i.e. the failing to respect the lessons of history for the sake of box office sales, and the americans are far worse at that sort of disgusting practice than we are. NOt that I condone the assassination of Mr Kennedy of course, but in terms of games which are actually sick, I find this less objectionable than other nonsense. You shouldn't perpetuate the myth that Kennedy was a whiter than white figure either: the fact was that his family had the stated aim of being a dynasty, with his brother as attorney-general and his father pulling the strings.
I have to agree with LL here. There a lot worse games out there, and honestly in my mind there is some question as to the validity of what the "government" says happened that day. I would rather games about shooting a grown man; rather then games about shooting children or raping women...
ok then LL I can go with what you say about the war, but Saving Private Ryan is a brilliant film so don't you go calling it 'ridiculous' like that hmmm...Frey.
No I don't apologise for what I said about the film. Brilliant it may be, but these fools need to be told by someone to respect the lessons of history. I've a good mind to make a film documentary about how, during the war, the Americans landed three months late in 1944, once the commonwealth troops had purged the beaches of Hitler's armies, but of course I wouldn't make such a film as that would do a disservice to the many competent Americans who fought alongside the commonwealth troops, as well as the work done by the american airforce alongside the RAF. I wish this respect for the lessons of history was mutual. all I can say is thank god that films such as 'A man for all seasons' and 'Cromwell' were british!
If anyone has seen u571 (about the submarine crew who obtained the Enigma code from Germany by kidnapping one of their boats and getting their decoding machine) .. you'll know how much they emphasized the American origins of the crew, that they sailed across the Atlantic, the scenes in New York before they left ... truth be told it was actually a British crew that did this and, as far as I understand, there wasn't even a single American on-board. I think this is ridiculous and disrespectful. It's fine to make patriotic movies and be proud of one's nationality and everything and it's ok to add little twist to historical events, but not credit yourself with something that you did not part take in at all, I think that's just downright wrong. Fortunately this was a prety lame film so I didn't feel like the British were to discredited.
And, yes, many Americans contributed heroically to the war and let's not forget the Japanese front and e.g. the battle of Midway in 1942 which was one of the bloodiest battles in the war and the American suicide pilots who managed to trick the Japanese and allow the American bombers to get close enough to ground their aerplanes.
Of course Wildebrew, you are absolutely right. I don't mean anything I say to detract from the splendid men and women from America who helped us win both wars. However, quid pro quo, I expect the same in return.
my bro got a game at home and in it you got to kill bin lardon and sadam Husaain! strange how not many sseem to mind about that yet when it comes to a presey of the USA it different. don't get me wrong coz i love yanks got family fair but, first you lot only came in a the end coz of Perl Habour. you know the only people in that intire war from ammerica that deserve real honour is the yankie voluntires who came in 1939 and fought in the RAF for britian. the whole of europe was under threat yet a big country like ammerica did nothing. it took a set of wet and small irelands to win noy yank. as for te sting well e suld ave een etter secured
wow! very good points made by everyone! even though it is sick yes, I agree with LL! every game maker who is into violence of any description with anyone are just as bad as each other and should probably be shot themselves!
yeh those games are sick.
my friends sometimes play things like that online. i think i'm staying away from them
hmm, in the news... yesterday I heard about six kids who hang a five year old while playing... I think TV shows, specially anime and well many of today's videogames have a major influence on the kids's view of the world, there are ones that just remain in the TV the whole day... and well they learn a lot of things from that. In the other hand, videogames are cool since you participate into a random event... but I mean the publication I saw yesterday had some studies that hmm, one out of ten kids who had a cellphone, would steal money for extra phone charges and receive pornographic and game messages on them...... oy...
Well, we humans neeed release, catharsis, and fun ways that are safe to release our aggressive and violent tendencies. If it's about fantasy violence, I see no problem witht that so long as it's not resented to young children. I mean, here's risk in everything but we have to live life.
Well, game makers have tried to come out with less violent games and what basically happened is that they didn't sell, they sold but the sales were practically nothing compared to the saleof the violent games. The main market for those games has traditionally been guys in their 20s and 30s and they want violent games, whatever the reason. Aas long as those games are not banned outright and there's a maket the companies will keep making the games that churn profits for them, it makes no sense to do otherwise. There is a lot of aggression in people and apparently playing those games is a great way to express those tendencies, I'm not saying it's right but I don't think banning all violence is necessary a good solution and I'm not sure how much you can blame violent crimes on video games, they seem like such a convenient victim often and the most handy thing to blame for everything that goes wrong. I think they do play a part though and somehow we need to prevent kids from having access to them and do further studies on the effect of those games on people.
cheers
-B
hmm K then, i just don't understand why many boys like action games also but companies sale these killing games... well yah, killing in a good way, is good, meaning maybe protecting a city.... but just killing people randomly can even lead you to a proffesional criminal! lol